Monday, July 30, 2012

Why I Now Encourage Talking During Sunday Morning Worship and An Excellent Idea for "Translating" Sermons for Children (During the Sermon)

We're still struggling our way through how having a 3 1/2 year old in service with us is supposed to look.

We have good weeks and bad weeks.

Matt and I are beginning to try and teach Isaac to pay attention during the service.  He continues to do pretty well during the song part of the service, but he definitely doesn't make it through the whole sermon yet.  BUT two ideas have helped a bit and I plan to make them a regular part of transitioning all of our children into church.


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1.  Allow talking.  I know!  I've had to re-train my brain BIG TIME on this one.  I've always thought my goal was to be quiet and keep Isaac quiet.  I've changed my mind.  In Parenting in the Pew: Guiding Your Children into the Joy of Worship, Robbie Castelmann points out that leaning over and explaining big words or tying a thought from the sermon back into the week can be a helpful way to get kids to start engaging with their minds on Sunday morning.  Isaac is still really young for this, but I now "speak" during much of the song service.  I whisper in Isaac's ear the "jist" of the song while we sing so that he knows that words like "Redeemer" mean Jesus and that "Body" means all the other people at church who believe in Jesus too (or I just try to summarize a verse or chorus into a preschool friendly sentence or two).  Castleman even allowed her kids to ask questions and, as long as it could be explained in a few words, she'd help them.  If it needed more time she'd let them know that they would talk about it later.  Isaac's never asked a question about the service, but I plan to allow for this as he gets older.

(Note:  Of course, it's important that we remain courteous to our Brothers and Sisters who are there to worship as well.  You may need to sit somewhere more "discreet" if this seems to distract those around you.  The dear elderly ladies who sit in front of us are very gracious about the noise coming from our row.  :)  And I really do whisper as softly as I can and still be heard by him.)

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2.  Draw the sermon.  A reader suggested a chapter from The Hidden Art of Homemaking by Edith Schaeffer when I wrote this post a while back on Isaac joining us in the service.  The chapter she recommended (on sketching) is really the only chapter I've found myself interested in from the book, but her idea is brilliant!  Her ingenious method is to "explain" the sermon to kids by sketching quick little pictures as the pastor speaks.  At first I thought it would be really hard to put abstract thoughts into drawings, but I've actually found that it's a WHOLE lot easier than I ever would have imagined.  There are so many little ideas, words or phrases that can be explained with an image.  It even helps ME engage a little better!  Here's a few peeks at some of my "explanations."  Isaac even helped me on some.  Impressive, huh?  ;)


Schaeffer's drawings are much more artistic, but less colorful, to give you another idea.  In the chapter she gives her illustrations from two different sermons.  The book is almost worth the investment just to see those and get a really good look at how this could look with your own kids.



Now I'm not going to try to give you some grand idea that Isaac sits riveted for the whole sermon to my fascinating drawings.  It's still going to be a while before he'll sit and listen the whole time.  Right now we're doing good if he makes it five minutes, BUT I feel like we're taking steps that make listening and learning a real possibility while showing him that what the pastor is saying is not "just for the adults." 

Do you have any ideas for helping train little ones not to "just be quiet" during the service, but to begin to actively engage in worship and learning?



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28 comments:

  1. Oh, I so needed this! Last week we kept the boys with us in the service for the first time. Of course, I created bags FULL of activities and none of them were really biblical or worship centered. I quickly realized the dichotomy I was creating (just trying to keep them quiet and not really teaching them to worship). Our church is beginning a family worship service once a month where all the kids are in the service together. I need to read these resources and get a better game plan together for teaching my kids to encounter God's Word and worship during this time. Wow, this is a hard one! Thanks for all your ideas and encouragement!

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  2. We're right in the middle of this transistion, too. Masyn does pretty well for a little while and does get a little too loud every now and then but every week it seems like she does a little better. I like the idea of drawing parts of the sermon. Thanks for all of the ideas!

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  3. My son is about four months shy of being four years old and we've had him in the service with us for several months now. I allow him to play with toys for now because, honestly, I didn't know what else to do. I think I'm going to put some of these tips into practice and see how it goes. I do know that whatever you do, it is going to take time.

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  4. Thanks for the ideas! I'm curious what you do when he's noisy? Do you take him out and reprimand him? If so, do you eturn to the sanctuary?

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    1. Yes, we take him out. We reprimand him if we need to. A couple of weeks ago, he was thirsty during the service and started wimpering. We've told him he can't have a drink during service, but he had pretzels right before so I quickly offered him a drink and he refused it and started crying. When my husband took him out, he said he wasn't allowed to have drinks during church, so my husband took him to the fountain and he came back happy... he was just trying to follow the rules. :) Usually we'll take him out if he's being a distraction and talk to him and discipline if necessary. Sometimes that makes him cry more and we can't bring him back into the service. On a good week, he calms down and we bring him back in. The main think we make sure of is that when he leaves the sanctuary, he doesn't have a "fun" time so that he won't be tempted to act up in order to get out of sitting in church.

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  5. Great ideas! My daughter is three and a half and my husband has recently told me he didn't want any toys in church anymore. I've struggled just making her sit doing nothing, so this might be a good thing we can do. It addresses his concern with her playing in church and my concern for her in doing nothing. Thanks for posting this.

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  6. I loved that chapter in Schaefer's book too! I haven't taken a 3.5 year old in in a while. My oldest who will be 8 next week frequently accompanies us though. When I read to the boys at home, I'll give them blank paper to draw on and ask them to draw a picture related to what I'm reading. Sometimes I've done that with the sermon. My boys can't pay attention the whole time, but they might be able to find a nugget and then draw a picture related to that one nugget! He is thrilled to be 'taking notes' alongside me!

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    1. Yes, Heather! You're the reader that recommended the book! A HUGE thank you!!!

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  7. Thanks for this post! Parenting in the Pew was such an inspiring read that it completely transformed my view of children joining in the worship service. I LOVE how she encourages parents to "guide your children into the joy of worship" rather than just teaching them to sit still and be quiet. I was so inspired that I have for over a year volunteered my time to create a kid's bulletin every week as a " tool for parents to guide their children into the joy of worship"! I get a copy of the bulletin and order of service ahead of time and re-create it for the kids (ages 4-10 would be the target group). Hymns are printed out in large font to make it easy for early readers to follow along. Same goes for the scripture passages (although the argument can be made for the child to be reading out of a Bible but this helps with flow for those kids who come without a Bible or without someone willing to help them find the passage in time - often in service there isn't time to flip to the scripture in time for the kids!!) Meet and greet time has a challenge to say welcome to a newcomer and hello to an old friend. Another challenge might be to shake hands with someone with black hair for example. During the choir offering, the kids are asked to listen to the song and draw a picture of a word that is repeated in the song. (i.e. draw a candle every time you hear the word "candle" in the song "Light your world". Its really fun to see those eager faces listening intently to the choir and trying hard to not miss one word! There are questions to answer about the sermon which works great for the older kids but I'm beyond delighted at this idea about drawing the sermon story our for the younger ones! Thank you!!! I hope to track down a copy of Schaefer's book. I loved your drawings by the way! I'd be happy to send you a copy of an example kid's bulletin if you are interested!
    P.s. I am REALLY enjoying your blog :)
    Susan at www.raisingdeeproots.wordpress.com

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    1. Susan, fantastic idea! What a blessing to the families with children at your church! I would LOVE for you to send me a copy of a bulletin. If you'll email me at whenurise@gmail.com, I'll give you my address! :)

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    2. I'm glad to see families that want to keep their littles with them during the service! Whenever my sister and I attended (in the 70s) with assorted friends and family we went straight from Sunday school to the service. There was no children's church back then. While I see the value in it I kind of wonder about the impact long term; I mean, you get to play and sing and craft and then you hit 8 - 10 or whatever and you are expected to sit and pay attention through a long boring service. Is there a correlation between that and the lack of teens attending? Everyone sees to just be out for a good time now. I don't know? lol

      I sometimes wonder what they did with their children 200 years ago when services weren't as lively as they are now?


      I'm not a parent of small children now but I wonder if having periods of practice of just sitting quietly throughout the week (kind of like the Duggar's do) might help?

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    3. Love your ideas Susan! I think a childrens bulletin is a great idea and something that would be gear at our church especially since nursery stops at 4. Would you be willing to send me a copy of an example bulletin? My email is candlemarez03@hotmail.com.

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    4. Christy,

      I emailed you the bulletin! let me know if you got it. Hopefully it did't land in your spam box!

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  8. LOVE these ideas. Might use them for myself too :) I just recently purchased a bible study for my grade 1 daughter called Grapevine studies which focuses on studying the bible by drawing stick figure drawings. This might also help jumpstart some drawing ideas? It's wonderful.

    I have a son as well, and and we have never made the nursery an option to play in when he misbehaves in the service. (After he was past nursery age, over 2 years old) We would take him out, talk to him (or discipline) and bring him back in if it was appropriate, or I stayed out with him in the hall. But nursery wasn't normally an option.

    We do regular daily quiet times in my house (with 4 little kids). And I think it does help with learning how to play or look at books quietly. My 3 year old son easily sits through a 45 minute sermon now. And he is extremely loud and energetic normally at home! I know this is due to God's grace in my life, and also some training at home.
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  9. I really appreciate this post as we too are trying to figure out what it is supposed to look like having our children in the service. We go to a family integrated church plant. We have the youngest children in the congregation so we do not have a model to follow. (Which in all honesty may be a good thing!) We allow our 2 year old and 1 year old to play in the floor on our aisle and on the toy mat behind us. (We sit in the back row.) I am not sure some Sundays that this is the best plan though. Anyway, before I end up writing a novel here I just wanted to thank you for the tips!

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  10. Great ideas! And it gave me an idea, too. My daughter is 7 but still finds it challenging in church sometimes. Instead of talking, we could write notes about the sermon!

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  11. I LOVE this post! This is the first time I have been to your wonderful blog, and I'm enjoying my visit. I will be impulsive here and ask you to consider linking up to our "EOA' Wednesday link-up party to share this with other readers. It is just the kind of encouragement I'm desiring to share there :)
    Many blessings, new friend!
    Jacqueline
    PS I would like to feature it next Wednesday, please :)

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    1. Jacqueline, Thanks for the invite! I just linked up and I would be honored if you featured my post! Thank you for your sweet encouragement! -Desiré

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  12. By chance I found your blog today when CTB shared your giveaway and I can't stop reading! I love your blog!! Love this post! We have been struggling with this also, my boys are 5 and 3-1/2 and keeping them quiet is a struggle! I can't wait to start trying your ideas and find the book you mentioned. Thank you so much!!

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  13. Thank you for this post! I am in the process of "transitioning" my little girl (she will be 3 at the end of November) into our worship services. We have a small congregation and I am starting with Sunday nights. She did fairly well this past Sunday and it seems to get better the more she does it. You have given me some great tips to use with her! It makes it a little more challenging since her Daddy is the pastor!

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    1. I can imagine that that makes it even tougher! You would probably really appreciate Parenting in the Pew as she was a pastor's wife as well, trying to train her kiddos on her own.

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  14. I just came across this blog and had fun reading this post. I have four little ones ages 7, 3.5, 2, & 7 months. We've always kept our kids in with us during the service, even as babies. There are some weeks I spend either half or all of the service in the nursery due to misbehaving or having to nurse the baby. My 7 month old just extended her schedule which is allowing me to sit in both SS and the Morning Worship Service! yay! My husband is the Assistant Pastor at our BP church, so it makes Sunday's quite interesting for me. =) SInce we homeschool, I do training during the week on sitting still while we do our Bible lesson or read our History book. That has helped a lot with my 3 & 2 year olds. My 7 & 3 year old are allowed to draw during church as long as they sit still and try to listen. My 2 year old usually sits in my lap or next to me and the baby is either in her car seat sleeping or on my lap. Its quite the challenge teaching littles ones to sit still and a lot of Sunday's that means I hear hardly any of the sermon. :-/ But knowing I'm doing a wonderful thing by teaching my kids to listen and learn when GOD's Word is being preached is soooo rewarding!!!

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  15. I'm very encouraged by your post. We choose to keep our children in service with us, and our church is definitely not geared toward children. I've read Parenting in the Pew, but unfortunately much of it just wasn't helpful for us because our service isn't structured as traditionally as the one she described. I'm looking forward to reading that bit from Edith Schaeffer. I also wanted to recommend Children in Church by Curtis and Sandra Lovelace (http://childreninchurch.com/). I found it really helpful and encouraging!

    Deanna

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  16. Our church just started a family friendly service and it is separate from the actual body of believers in the corporate sanctuary. It is televised in the fellowship hall where tables are set up with drawing pads, coloring books and bins of legos so the kids have something to do hands on while listening. And my 4 year old does listen. He always has tons of questions. We've grown to about 4 or 5 families now. We love it!!!!!

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  17. Wow! What an encouragement! I have 7 children, 5 of them under 6. I am one of the few ladies in my church who keep the little ones with us, and honestly I was getting a little weary of the frustration it can be with littles. But, this article has renewed my spirit, and has given me so many ideas. Thank you!

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  18. I forgot....would you send me a copy of your bulletin? What a wonderful idea :) I love how you ladies are engaging your children, instead of "tolerating" them :) You have been the encouragement I needed.

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  19. This is such a great idea. It has been a big switch for us having Cole in service with us instead of a children's church. I love it - but it is an adjustment. So I'm looking for any help I can get in this area. We have brought coloring books and some quiet toys for the sermon (we make him keep his activities away during the music part), but I like this because it will help teach him to listen and learn in the service. Thanks!

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